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Dom D'Agostino, a neuroscientist and metabolic therapy expert, shares cutting-edge insights into ketogenic diets and exogenous ketones on this comprehensive episode. (02:30) The discussion covers the evolution from his early Navy-funded research on oxygen toxicity to developing practical ketogenic strategies for both therapeutic and performance applications. D'Agostino explains the critical differences between nutritional ketosis (achieved through diet) and supplemental ketosis (using exogenous ketones), providing clear guidance on implementation, common mistakes, and optimal protocols. (15:00) The conversation explores emerging applications in cancer treatment, particularly glioblastoma, psychiatric disorders including anorexia, and neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's. Additionally, the episode delves into hyperbaric oxygen therapy protocols for traumatic brain injury and cognitive enhancement, offering evidence-based recommendations for various clinical applications.
Dom D'Agostino is a neuroscientist and professor at the University of South Florida who has become a leading authority on metabolic therapies, particularly ketogenic diets and exogenous ketones. His career began with Navy-funded research studying oxygen toxicity in military divers, which led him to discover the neuroprotective effects of ketosis. D'Agostino has authored numerous peer-reviewed publications and currently leads research on ketogenic interventions for cancer, neurological disorders, and military applications, while also serving as an advisor for several health technology companies.
Peter Attia is a physician and longevity expert who hosts The Drive podcast, focusing on translating complex health science into actionable insights. He has extensive personal and clinical experience with ketogenic diets and metabolic interventions, having collaborated with D'Agostino for over a decade on various research projects. Attia brings a practical, evidence-based perspective to discussions about health optimization and therapeutic applications of metabolic strategies.
D'Agostino emphasizes that the biggest mistake people make when attempting ketosis is failing to measure their actual ketone levels and track their food intake. (27:16) Without objective measurements, people often assume they're in ketosis when they're not, or fail to correlate their dietary choices with ketone production. He recommends using blood ketone meters (gold standard) or breath meters for accuracy, and tracking apps like Carbon to monitor macronutrient ratios and total calories. This data-driven approach allows you to understand what foods elevate or suppress your ketones, enabling you to optimize your approach rather than guessing.
Contrary to traditional ketogenic diet recommendations of 8-12% protein, D'Agostino advocates for 20-30% protein intake to preserve muscle mass and metabolic health. (38:35) For someone his size (220 pounds), this translates to potentially 220 grams of protein daily when very active. He learned through personal experience that restricting protein too severely led to significant muscle loss despite ketosis. Higher protein intake supports muscle preservation, provides greater satiety, and doesn't prevent ketosis when properly implemented with adequate fat and carbohydrate restriction.
Exogenous ketone salts can dramatically improve the transition into nutritional ketosis by bridging the "energetic gap" that occurs when glucose levels drop but ketone production hasn't fully ramped up. (63:57) D'Agostino explains that ketone salts combined with electrolytes (like his Keto Start product) provide both immediate ketone availability and replace the sodium, potassium, and other minerals lost during the early ketogenic transition. This prevents the brain fog, fatigue, and orthostatic hypotension that often derail people's ketogenic attempts, making adherence much more achievable.
Higher ketone levels are not necessarily better and can become dangerous above 2-3 millimolar, leading to "energy toxicity" and metabolic stress. (87:16) D'Agostino has observed that ketone levels above 2 millimolar can trigger counterregulatory insulin responses and potentially cause hypoglycemia, especially with rapid-acting ketone esters. The therapeutic sweet spot appears to be 0.5-2 millimolar, where you get the cognitive and metabolic benefits without the negative side effects. This is particularly important when using exogenous ketones, where it's easier to inadvertently push levels too high.
D'Agostino advocates for using racemic (50/50 D and L) beta-hydroxybutyrate rather than pure D-BHB because the L-form provides sustained, slower-metabolizing ketones with unique signaling benefits. (70:30) While D-BHB gets rapidly metabolized for energy, L-BHB hangs around longer in the brain and may provide important anti-inflammatory and epigenetic effects through pathways like NLRP3 inflammasome suppression. This creates both immediate fuel availability and longer-lasting therapeutic effects, making racemic formulations potentially superior for cognitive enhancement and neuroprotection.