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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English with Derek Thompson•December 9, 2025

Plain English BEST OF: The Antisocial Century

A compelling exploration of America's growing isolation and the psychological barriers that prevent people from engaging in meaningful social interactions, revealing how small acts of connection can significantly improve our well-being.
Creator Economy
Relationship Psychology
Identity & Belonging
Contemporary Philosophy
Derek Thompson
Ezra Klein
Nick Epley
Robert Waldinger

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Podcast Summary

In this compelling episode, Derek Thompson introduces his Atlantic cover story "The Antisocial Century," examining how Americans are spending more time alone than in any period we have trustworthy data for. (03:21) The central finding reveals that in the 21st century alone, we've reduced our face-to-face socializing time by 20% and added an additional ninety-nine minutes of home time to the average day. (03:34) Thompson argues this isolation surge is fundamentally changing our economy, culture, politics, and relationships. The episode features University of Chicago psychologist Nick Epley, whose groundbreaking research on social connection reveals a striking paradox: while humans are fundamentally social beings who benefit enormously from connection, we consistently choose to isolate ourselves based on mistaken predictions about how social interactions will unfold.

  • Main theme: The disconnect between our social nature and our antisocial choices, exploring why we avoid interactions that would actually make us happier

Speakers

Derek Thompson

Derek Thompson is a staff writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. He recently co-authored "Abundance" with Ezra Klein, exploring American politics and economics over the past fifty years and charting a path forward for liberalism in America.

Nick Epley

Nick Epley is a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. He studies "mind reading" - how we think about other people's thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes, and mostly how we misunderstand each other in ways that cause friction in our lives. He has conducted fifteen years of research on social connection and is the author of "Mind Wise."

Key Takeaways

We Systematically Underestimate the Joy of Social Connection

Nick Epley's train experiments revealed that people consistently predict they'll be happier keeping to themselves rather than talking to strangers, yet the opposite proves true. (23:00) When researchers asked Chicago commuters to either talk to someone new, keep to themselves, or do whatever they normally do, those who engaged in conversation reported significantly more positive commutes. However, when asked to predict their feelings beforehand, people expected solitude would make them happier. This "mistaken seeking of solitude" occurs because we underestimate how receptively others will respond to our genuine outreach, not because we think connection itself will be unpleasant.

Deep Conversations Are Surprisingly Rewarding and Underutilized

Epley's experiments with MBA students demonstrate that people dramatically underestimate how much they'll enjoy meaningful conversations with strangers. (33:59) When students were paired up and asked deep questions like "If I was going to become a good friend of yours, what would be most important for me to know about you?" the gaps between predicted and actual enjoyment were "almost embarrassing" as a psychologist. Students reported having some of the best conversations of their lives, with some sharing things they'd never told another person before. Yet beforehand, they expected these interactions to be awkward or uncomfortable.

Voice Connection Trumps Text-Based Communication

Research shows that voice-based communication creates meaningfully stronger social connections than text-based interaction. (52:01) The human voice contains "paralinguistic cues" - fluctuations in tone, pace, and inflection that signal the presence of mental life and make the speaker seem more thoughtful, intelligent, and human. Text communication lacks these vital cues, making it feel "dead" and lifeless. Even when the content is identical, people feel more connected to others when they hear their voice rather than read their words, which explains why phone calls foster better relationships than texting.

Small Social Habits Create Sustainable Well-being

The key to social fitness lies in turning small social behaviors into daily habits rather than seeking intense occasional connections. (64:32) Epley emphasizes that happiness comes more from the frequency of positive events than their intensity, making consistent small social interactions more valuable than occasional deep connections. His personal example involves habitually greeting everyone he passes on his daily walk to the office - from janitors to colleagues - creating a "200-yard walk that's like getting a bunch of high fives." These micro-connections become part of one's character and provide sustainable boosts to daily well-being.

Social Avoidance Perpetuates Itself Through Lack of Evidence

The reason these social prediction gaps persist is that "you only learn from the experiences you have, and you don't learn from the experiences you avoid." (60:53) When people avoid social interactions due to anxiety or pessimistic expectations, they never get the corrective feedback that would show them their predictions are wrong. This creates a vicious cycle where avoidance reinforces mistaken beliefs about social interaction. The solution requires deliberately approaching rather than avoiding social opportunities, allowing real experience to override inaccurate predictions.

Statistics & Facts

  1. Americans have reduced their face-to-face socializing time by 20% in the 21st century alone and added an additional 99 minutes of home time to the average day. (03:21) This statistic forms the foundation of Thompson's "Antisocial Century" thesis.
  2. In 2023, 74% of all restaurant traffic came from takeout and delivery, meaning only a quarter of restaurant business involves sitting down at a table. (04:30) This represents a dramatic shift from social dining to solitary consumption.
  3. The share of US adults having dinner or drinks with friends on any given night has declined by more than 30% in the last twenty years. (04:50) This decline reflects the broader trend toward social isolation.

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