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In this transformative episode, bestselling author Gary Zukav returns to discuss his latest book "Universal Human" and the profound shift from old consciousness to new consciousness occurring in our species. (00:33) With characteristic wisdom, Zukav explores how the old consciousness, limited to the five senses, is being replaced by a multisensory awareness that recognizes we are more than minds and bodies - we are souls. (18:45) He shares deeply personal stories about his journey from sex addiction to spiritual partnership, revealing how authentic power comes from aligning our personality with our soul's intentions of harmony, cooperation, sharing, and reverence for life. (12:09) The conversation delves into creating authentic power through emotional awareness, challenging frightened parts of our personality, and choosing love over fear in every moment.
• The fundamental shift from five-sensory to multi-sensory humanity represents the most significant evolutionary leap our species has ever taken
Gary Zukav is the author of four New York Times bestsellers, including "The Seat of the Soul," which held the #1 position for extended periods and has sold millions of copies worldwide. He's been Oprah's most frequently interviewed guest and has appeared on her show over 30 times. Zukav is also the co-founder of the Seat of the Soul Institute and has spent over 40 years studying consciousness, authentic power, and spiritual partnership.
Lewis Howes is the host of The School of Greatness podcast and a New York Times bestselling author. He's built a media empire focused on helping ambitious professionals achieve mastery in their fields through interviews with world-renowned experts, thought leaders, and spiritual teachers.
Zukav reveals that authentic power is fundamentally different from external power (manipulation and control). (12:09) It's the alignment of your personality with your soul, which naturally seeks harmony, cooperation, sharing, and reverence for life. Unlike external power that creates violence and destruction, authentic power creates constructive, life-giving consequences. This shift requires conscious choice and emotional awareness - you must recognize when frightened parts of your personality are active and choose to act from loving parts instead. The process isn't about healing or changing these frightened parts, but about moving beyond their control consciously.
When asked how people can know what their soul wants, Zukav emphasizes following your sense of meaning rather than wants or needs. (26:01) He shares how following sex addiction for decades was following fear-based wants, not soul-directed meaning. The key is experimentation - when something resonates with meaning, take it into your life and see what it produces. If it creates fulfillment and forward movement toward love, continue experimenting. If not, let it go without forcing it. This process requires becoming intimate with both frightened and loving parts of your personality.
Humanity is experiencing an unprecedented evolutionary shift from five-sensory to multi-sensory consciousness. (01:15) The old consciousness, limited to physical senses, sees power as manipulation and control of external circumstances. The new consciousness allows direct experience of non-physical reality and recognizes we are souls having a human experience. (12:21) About half of our species now has this new consciousness, while the other half operates from the old paradigm, creating the intense polarization we see globally. This isn't political or economic - it's a spiritual circumstance requiring a completely different response.
Your body provides infallible guidance about whether you're operating from love or fear. (10:51) Painful physical sensations and emotional experiences indicate frightened parts of your personality are active. Instead of trying to change external circumstances (the old consciousness approach), put your attention inside yourself. When you experience physical or emotional pain, consciously choose to act from loving parts of your personality while experiencing the fear. This is the moment authentic power is created - when you use your will to respond with love despite feeling fear.
Zukav reframes temptation not as external evil, but as frightened parts of your personality showing you exactly what they intend to do if you don't intervene. (94:01) Every temptation is a dress rehearsal for negative karma - it shows you the satisfaction and pleasure you'll get from unconscious action. When you act on temptation, you create karma that affects others. But temptation itself, when recognized and not acted upon, becomes a powerful opportunity to choose love over fear and create authentic power in real-time.