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In this powerful conversation at a $150 million Bel Air estate, Tony Robbins shares the raw truth behind building an unstoppable mindset and achieving breakthrough success. From his childhood struggles with four different fathers and an abusive yet loving mother to the night he ran 17 miles home doing incantations that forged his unshakeable identity, Tony reveals the deeper patterns that separate those who break through from those who stay stuck. (05:47) He explains why most people approach transformation backwards - starting with strategy when they should begin with state - and how this single mistake keeps them trapped in limiting beliefs. The discussion moves through the hero's journey we're all on, whether we realize it or not, and why the challenges destroying us right now are actually calls to adventure that will make us stronger than we ever imagined.
Tony Robbins is one of the most influential personal development teachers of our time, serving as a #1 New York Times bestselling author, global entrepreneur, and adviser to world leaders, CEOs, and elite performers. With 49 years of experience and over 121 companies generating more than $12 billion in business, he has impacted millions of people worldwide through his transformational events and teachings. Tony has fed over 62 billion meals through his humanitarian efforts and owns a small stake in the Los Angeles Dodgers, fulfilling a childhood dream.
Lewis Howes is the host of The School of Greatness podcast, which has been running consistently for 13 years without missing a week. He's a former professional athlete who pursued Olympic handball and is now a father of twin daughters. Lewis is a New York Times bestselling author and has built a successful media platform focused on helping people achieve greatness in all areas of life.
Tony reveals that most people fail because they approach breakthroughs in reverse order, starting with strategy when they should begin with state. (08:44) Your mental and emotional state controls your story (beliefs), and your story determines what strategies you'll even attempt. When you're in an uncertain state trying to learn new strategies, hesitancy kills momentum and performance. Instead, change your state first to one of certainty and conviction, which will naturally shift your story about what's possible, making effective strategies emerge organically. This is why great athletes focus on state management before technique.
True power comes from developing internal certainty rather than depending on external circumstances for security. (17:05) Tony emphasizes that there was never any real external certainty - people have simply convinced themselves they're secure based on jobs, relationships, or income. When you train yourself to feel internal certainty and anticipate challenges while knowing "no matter what, I'll find the way," you develop an unshakeable identity. This shift from renting certainty to owning it internally transforms how you approach every area of life, from parenting to business to relationships.
Identity is the strongest force in human psychology - you will always find a way to stay consistent with who you believe you are. (43:44) Tony shares how he transformed himself through incantations (not affirmations) - engaging body, voice, and mind with intense repetition while running 17 miles home. He combined this with proximity to successful people, studying how they thought and operated. The key is not just positive thinking, but physically and emotionally conditioning new beliefs into your nervous system until they become your natural state of being.
Life is predictable in its unpredictability - everyone will face extreme stress that feels like their world is ending. (18:59) Tony explains this through the hero's journey framework: what feels like your life falling apart is actually a call to adventure. When you refuse the call, life takes you anyway. But when you proactively enter the challenge, you discover how strong you really are, find out who your real friends are, and build immunity to future stress. This perspective transforms disasters into opportunities for growth and strength-building.
The key to financial and personal success is becoming more valuable to others, not pursuing what you think is valuable. (48:19) Tony's mentor Jim Rohn taught him that we're all equal as souls but not in the marketplace - your income reflects the value you add to others' lives. Instead of focusing on what you want to give, focus on what people actually need. When you consistently deliver more value than anyone else expects, you create raving fans and sustainable success across all areas of life.