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This episode presents a powerful compilation featuring Scott Galloway, Terry Crews, Jonathan Haidt, Arnold Schwarzenegger, John W. Price, John Pearson, and Toby Morse exploring modern masculinity and its challenges. (00:22) The conversation diagnoses what's broken in our approach to masculinity and maps paths forward through mentorship, community, and authentic connection. (00:48) The discussion tackles the friendship recession, boys growing up without fathers, digital isolation, and men who are exhausted from "cosplaying confidence." (01:12)
Professor of marketing at NYU Stern School of Business and entrepreneur who founded multiple companies including Prophet, Red Envelope, and L2. He's an influential voice on technology and modern culture, regularly appearing on CNN and hosting the podcasts "Prof G" and "Pivot."
Emmy-nominated actor, former NFL player, and author known for roles in Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Expendables franchise. He's become a prominent advocate for overcoming toxic masculinity and speaking out against sexual assault in Hollywood.
Social psychologist at NYU's Stern School of Business and bestselling author of "The Righteous Mind" and "The Anxious Generation." His research focuses on the psychology of morality and the impact of social media on youth mental health.
Former Governor of California, seven-time Mr. Olympia bodybuilding champion, Hollywood action star, and author of "Be Useful." He achieved unprecedented success across three different careers: bodybuilding, entertainment, and politics.
Depth psychologist, modern myth maker, and co-founder of the Center for Healing Arts. He specializes in men's psychological development and the integration of biological, psychological, social, and spiritual aspects of human experience.
Original male supermodel and founder of the lifestyle magazine "Mr. Feel Good." He's dedicated his post-modeling career to promoting mental health awareness and creating community spaces for men to discuss vulnerability and authentic masculinity.
Lead singer of hardcore punk band H2O, vegan, straight edge advocate, and father. He's known for his positive energy in the hardcore scene and has been touring with his son Max, demonstrating healthy father-son relationships in action.
Scott Galloway emphasizes that "if you look at the singular point of failure in a young man's life, it's when he loses a male role model." (08:58) The data shows that while daughters of single mothers have similar outcomes to those with two parents, boys without male role models become dramatically more likely to be incarcerated and less likely to graduate high school. (09:28) This isn't diminishing single mothers but acknowledging that men play a unique role in boys' development. The ultimate expression of masculinity, according to Galloway, is "getting involved in the life of a boy that isn't yours." (10:30)
John Price reveals that "men right now have 50% less friends than we did twenty years ago." (21:04) This statistic represents the catalyst for many other problems men face, as genuine connection and intimacy are essential for psychological health. (21:21) The absence of real community and the experiential process of "bumping up against another human being" leads to various forms of suffering including addiction and depression. Price argues that being "beholden to relationships and forces outside of your own desires" is crucial for healthy development.
Arnold Schwarzenegger advocates that "adversity breeds character" and emphasizes the importance of not shying away from hardship. (38:01) He argues that society has become too focused on being soft and sensitive, stating "we need to get stronger, we need to get bossier, we need to get tougher." (38:48) His approach to parenting involved clear boundaries and consequences, believing that facing difficulty and resistance doesn't just build physical muscle but mental strength. The key is finding the balance between being appropriately challenging while remaining supportive.
Terry Crews describes how many men develop "two lives" - the authentic self hidden from the world and the performative self they show others. (59:49) This splitting often begins in childhood as a survival mechanism but becomes problematic when it prevents genuine connection. John Pearson reinforces this, noting that men must "learn to be vulnerable and be connected as a community" rather than maintaining facades. (43:43) True masculinity involves the courage to be seen authentically, not the exhausting performance of "cosplaying confidence."
Jonathan Haidt identifies that American kids now spend "five hours a day just on social media" plus another three to five hours on other screen activities. (70:55) This creates what he calls "four foundational harms": social deprivation, sleep deprivation, cognitive fragmentation, and addiction. (70:43) The irony is that while we're overprotective of children in physical spaces, we're completely under-protective in digital spaces that are proving far more dangerous. (68:12) This digital rewiring is particularly damaging because it removes the essential childhood experiences of independence and unstructured time with peers.