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In this powerful conversation with New York Times columnist and bestselling author David Brooks, Scott Galloway explores the darker trends shaping American society - from rising antisemitism and political extremism to the crisis of isolation affecting young men. (20:00) Brooks offers a thoughtful analysis of how declining trust in institutions, economic precarity among young people, and the erosion of traditional community bonds have created what he calls a "dark world" since 2013. The discussion spans from the immediate aftermath of recent violent attacks to broader questions about purpose, love, and the social fabric that holds communities together. Brooks argues that while economic data shows younger generations are doing relatively well financially, the lack of clear pathways to success and meaningful relationships has created unprecedented levels of anxiety and disconnection. (39:00) The conversation ultimately centers on finding solutions through community building, national service, and what Brooks calls "weaving" - the essential work of rebuilding trust and connection at the local level.
• Main themes include the crisis of antisemitism, the isolation epidemic among young men, the decline of institutional trust, and the urgent need for community rebuilding and social connection.David Brooks is an op-ed columnist for The New York Times and a writer for The Atlantic, known for his thoughtful conservative perspective that emphasizes character, relationships, and moral clarity. He's the bestselling author of several influential books including The Second Mountain, The Road to Character, The Social Animal, and How to Know a Person, and founded the Weave social fabric project focused on rebuilding community trust and connection.
Scott Galloway is a professor at NYU Stern School of Business, entrepreneur, and bestselling author who hosts The Prof G Pod. He's known for his provocative takes on business, technology, and society, combining economic analysis with cultural commentary from his unique perspective as both an academic and successful entrepreneur.
Brooks challenges the purely economic explanation for social unrest, noting that millennials and Gen Z actually have higher real wages and similar homeownership rates compared to previous generations at the same age. (14:00) However, he identifies that the real issue is the collapse of clear pathways to success - where previous generations had straightforward routes to good careers, today's young people face a "funnel effect" where millions compete for the same prestigious opportunities at elite colleges and firms. The precarity isn't just economic but psychological, creating uncertainty about how to build a meaningful life even when basic material needs are met.
Brooks highlights a striking and often overlooked aspect of the male loneliness epidemic: the absence of affectionate touch. (10:36) He cites research showing that large numbers of young men go weeks without any form of affectionate touch - hugs, kisses, or gentle pats - which he argues is symptomatic of deeper social isolation. As mammals, humans require physical connection for emotional regulation and mental health, making this deprivation particularly devastating for young men who are already struggling with romantic and social connections.
Modern culture has redefined love in narcissistic terms, with people saying they know they're in love when they "don't have to try hard socially" or when someone makes them feel good. (22:24) Brooks argues this fundamentally misunderstands love's nature - true love is about serving others and putting their needs above your own, not about personal gratification. This self-oriented approach to relationships prevents people from developing the skills needed for lasting partnerships and meaningful connections with family, friends, and community.
Brooks identifies that most young people will make four fundamental commitments that determine their life's quality: to a vocation, a philosophy or faith, a family structure, and a community. (30:40) He defines commitment as "falling in love with something and then building a structure of behavior around it for when love falters." This runs counter to cultural messages about keeping options open and maximizing autonomy. The freedom to do meaningful things requires constraining yourself through commitments, much like learning piano requires chaining yourself to practice.
Through his Weave project, Brooks has discovered that every community has natural "weavers" - people who spontaneously organize gatherings, run local nonprofits, or practice "aggressive friendship" by consistently bringing neighbors together. (46:00) These individuals build trust at the speed of relationships, which is slow but powerful. The key insight is that culture changes when a small group finds a better way to live and others copy them. By identifying and supporting these natural community builders, it's possible to shift social norms and rebuild the fabric of trust that holds societies together.