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This special episode of The Knowledge Project features Pierre Poilievre, leader of Canada's Conservative Party, discussing his vision for the country's future. The conversation covers fundamental questions about the role of government, Canadian national identity, economic challenges, and the housing crisis. (01:31) Poilievre argues that government should only do what people cannot do for themselves, emphasizing that government's unique characteristic is its legal power to apply force. The discussion explores immigration policy, media independence, free speech, and the drug crisis, with Poilievre consistently advocating for reduced government intervention and increased individual freedom. (47:27) Throughout the interview, he maintains that his purpose is to provide people with hope through practical solutions focused on jobs, homes, and economic opportunity.
Pierre Poilievre is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, elected at age 24 when he defeated a sitting minister of national defense. He has maintained consistent positions on free enterprise, low taxes, and sound money throughout his political career. Poilievre has served in cabinet and won the Conservative leadership with a strong victory, often being underestimated before achieving political success.
Shane Parrish is the host of The Knowledge Project podcast and founder of Farnam Street. He focuses on improving decision-making and critical thinking through in-depth conversations with leaders across various fields, avoiding slogans and loaded questions to enable nuanced political discourse.
Poilievre argues that government's only unique characteristic is its legal power to apply force, and therefore should only undertake activities that people cannot do for themselves. (01:31) This includes military, border control, policing, basic infrastructure, and providing necessities to those unable to provide for themselves. He contends that government subsidies for businesses are unnecessary because private capital markets and credit systems already exist. This principle guides his opposition to corporate subsidies and his preference for tax cuts over direct government spending programs.
Drawing from Wilfrid Laurier's definition that "Canada is free and freedom is its nationality," Poilievre emphasizes that people come to Canada for freedom, not ethnicity or weather. (03:34) He argues that successful integration requires immigrants to put Canada first, leaving behind divisions from their countries of origin. The challenge, he suggests, is that recent government messaging has portrayed Canada as having no national identity, making integration more difficult during periods of mass migration that exceed absorption capacity.
Poilievre identifies excessive government spending as draining productive capital from the private sector into unproductive bureaucracy. (17:58) He points out that Canada's $78 billion deficit must be either borrowed (taking capital from the private sector) or printed (causing inflation), creating a lose-lose situation. His solution includes eliminating capital gains tax on reinvestments in Canada, arguing this would act as "economic rocket fuel" by encouraging continuous investment in factories, mines, and innovation while only taxing final cash-outs.
When discussing the over $3.4 billion in government subsidies to Canadian media since 2017, Poilievre poses a fundamental question: "Can something that is dependent be independent?" (33:47) He argues that government-funded media cannot truly hold government accountable and that the solution is more decentralized, competitive, and independent voices. Rather than government censorship, he advocates for an "overabundance of information" where truth and falsehood clash, allowing people to judge for themselves.
Poilievre argues that the drug crisis continues because pharmaceutical companies, bureaucracies, consultants, and agencies profit from maintaining the problem. (49:39) He points out the irony that the same pharmaceutical industry that created the opioid crisis through OxyContin is now profiting from "safe supply" programs. His alternative focuses on treatment centers with 70% success rates that get people completely off drugs through counseling, physical exercise, job placement, and housing, rather than providing more pharmaceutical solutions.