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This episode features leadership expert and co-founder Natalie Dawson, who has built two 9-figure businesses and helped over 15,000 entrepreneurs scale their companies. (02:14) Dawson discusses the fundamental differences between successful and unsuccessful business owners, revealing that character and ethics matter more than business models. She introduces her PPF (Personal, Professional, Financial) framework for goal setting and shares insights on communication, hiring, and the mindset required for building wealth. (12:35) The conversation covers practical strategies for transformation, from earning respect to mastering your calendar, while addressing common misconceptions about hard work and burnout.
Natalie Dawson is a leadership expert and co-founder of two 9-figure businesses: Cardone Ventures (a management consulting and investment firm) and 10X Health (a wellness company). (05:16) She has helped over 15,000 entrepreneurs scale their organizations and is the author of bestselling books including 'Start the Work: How to Duplicate Yourself and Scale Your Business.' Dawson specializes in helping small business owners grow from $3 million to $10+ million in annual revenue through education, consulting, services, and investing.
Steven Bartlett is the host of The Diary of a CEO podcast and a successful entrepreneur. He conducts in-depth interviews with business leaders, focusing on extracting practical insights and frameworks that help ambitious professionals achieve mastery in their fields.
Success in business ultimately comes down to the character of the person running it, not the business model itself. (08:08) Dawson emphasizes that ethics, compliance, and the desire to win are fundamental traits that determine success. She can give the same playbook to two different business owners, but the one with poor character will fail because they'll make decisions that sabotage their growth. This includes choosing the wrong partners, employees, or even personal relationships that detract from their ability to reach their potential.
Dawson's three-step methodology for goal setting involves Personal, Professional, and Financial goals mapped across 1, 3, and 5-year timeframes. (13:58) This framework prevents the common mistake of creating vague New Year's resolutions and forces people to think strategically about their future. The key insight is that in five years, you'll be five years older regardless, so the question becomes: who do you want to be at that age? This systematic approach helps people transition from esoteric wishes to concrete, actionable plans.
Effective communication requires a three-step process: Vision (explaining the why and importance), Commitment (what you'll provide and what you need in return), and Execution (specific steps and timelines). (25:49) Most people fail in communication by jumping straight to execution without establishing the vision or securing mutual commitment. This framework can be applied to getting promotions, managing teams, or even deciding where to go for dinner. The key is ensuring alignment on why something matters before diving into tactics.
To earn respect, you must prioritize being respected over being liked and develop undeniable statistics in your area of expertise. (59:19) Dawson explains that respect isn't general—it's compartmentalized. You need proof that exists in the physical universe showing your competence in specific areas. Whether it's recruitment numbers, revenue generation, or successful project completions, having concrete stats prevents others from dismissing your capabilities and builds genuine confidence in yourself.
Business owners must create a model of what they currently do, train others to mimic it, help them master it, then multiply their impact. (80:39) The biggest mistake is expecting magical unicorn employees who can instantly replicate your results without proper documentation and training. Instead, document your processes using frameworks like Vision, Commitment, Execution, then systematically train team members through tell, show, coach, and measure phases. Only after someone masters the existing system should they be allowed to innovate and add new elements.