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In this episode, journalist Susan Dominus explores how siblings may be just as influential as parents in shaping who we become. Drawing from her book "The Family Dynamic," Dominus examines the nature vs. nurture debate and highlights several high-achieving families, including the Brontë sisters, to understand what drives human development. (02:14) The conversation reveals that while 50% of individual differences can be explained by nurture, parenting is just one small part of that environmental influence. (14:03)
Brett McKay is the founder and editor-in-chief of The Art of Manliness, a popular men's lifestyle website and podcast. He has built a successful platform focused on helping men develop practical skills, character, and wisdom for modern life.
Susan Dominus is a staff writer at The New York Times Magazine and the author of "The Family Dynamic: A Journey into the Mystery of Sibling Success." She is also a lecturer at Yale University and has spent years investigating what drives human achievement and family dynamics. As a mother of twins, she brings both professional expertise and personal experience to understanding sibling relationships.
Research shows that 50% of individual differences can be explained by nature (genetics) and 50% by nurture (environment). (14:03) However, most people misunderstand nurture as primarily parenting, when it actually encompasses everything in your environment - siblings, neighbors, random experiences, and countless other factors. Parenting is just one small piece of the nurture puzzle, which helps explain why parents often see dramatically different outcomes despite similar parenting approaches. This insight should relieve parents from feeling overly responsible for every aspect of their children's development while encouraging them to focus on what they can meaningfully control.
Research consistently shows that oldest children tend to have higher IQs than their younger siblings, primarily because they receive exclusive parental attention during their early years. (19:17) Interestingly, oldest children who have younger siblings actually perform better cognitively than only children, suggesting that teaching or interacting with younger siblings helps consolidate their own knowledge. However, contrary to popular belief, birth order doesn't reliably predict personality differences - the idea that oldest children are naturally more conscientious is largely a myth based on flawed research methods.
Older siblings often serve as invaluable guides for younger ones, particularly in navigating new environments like college or career paths. (27:18) In the Murguilla family example, the oldest sibling Alfred paved the way at University of Kansas, making it significantly easier for his younger siblings to succeed there. Siblings can also recognize talents and provide vision in ways parents might miss, and crucially, teenagers are much more likely to accept advice from siblings than parents - making sibling guidance particularly powerful during formative years.
The most successful families combine high ambient expectations with a hands-off parenting approach. (41:27) These parents set clear expectations that their children will work hard and succeed, but then step back and let the children do the work themselves. Research shows that when parents intervene too much - like solving puzzles for young children - kids become less motivated to tackle challenges independently. This approach fosters intrinsic motivation and ownership, as children work to please themselves rather than their parents.
Sibling rivalry, while sometimes creating family tension, can be a powerful motivator for achievement. (28:24) In the Groff family, novelist Lauren Groff credits her motivation partly to fury at feeling underestimated by her older brother Adam. This competitive dynamic pushed each sibling to differentiate themselves and excel in distinct areas - Adam in healthcare entrepreneurship, Lauren in literature, and Sarah as an Olympic triathlete. The key is that rivalry can fuel both achievement and differentiation, encouraging siblings to carve out their own unique paths to success.