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Bestselling author and entrepreneur Mel Robbins sits down with Marina Mogilko to share powerful insights on overcoming anxiety, pursuing dreams, and building success on your own timeline. Robbins, who transformed her life from $800,000 in debt to running a global media empire, breaks down why anxiety happens and how to separate yourself from the alarm going off in your body. (02:30)
Mel Robbins is a bestselling author of "Let Them" and "The 5 Second Rule," entrepreneur, and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast, one of the top podcasts in the world recently nominated for a Golden Globe. At 57, she runs a global media company with 55 employees, reaching 9-11 million listeners weekly with the third largest podcast globally, after overcoming $800,000 in debt to achieve success in her fifties.
Marina Mogilko is the host of Silicon Valley Girl podcast and a successful entrepreneur. Based on the conversation, she is a working mother of two young children (ages 6 and 4) who creates content and runs a business while navigating the challenges of balancing career ambition with family life.
Instead of saying "I have anxiety," say "I feel anxious because..." Anxiety is simply an alarm in your body that goes off when there's something uncertain in the future that you feel you can't control. (03:13) The key insight is that anxiety represents separation from your capacity to handle whatever's coming. When you understand that you're capable of figuring things out over time, you can separate yourself from the alarm while still acknowledging the feeling. This reframe moves you from being a victim of anxiety to someone who experiences anxious moments but trusts their ability to navigate challenges.
Take a blank piece of paper, draw a line down the center, and list everything causing friction in your life on the left side. (16:59) These friction points reveal exactly what needs to change. On the right side, list what's going well or remember when you were happiest. Robbins emphasizes that most people don't know what they want because they haven't stopped to define it. The friction exercise forces you to be honest about what's not working, which often includes neglecting fitness, feeling uninspired at work, or wasting time online instead of building toward your goals.
Jealousy is blocked ambition and impossible to feel toward something you don't want. (21:18) Pay attention to who triggers jealousy - there's something about their energy, relationships, or business approach that you're drawn toward. The moment you start working toward what you want, jealousy transforms into inspiration because you're giving yourself permission to pursue it. Robbins uses the example of admiring Steven Bartlett's video production quality as motivation to improve her own work, showing how jealousy becomes a guide for growth areas.
Robbins never accepts speaking engagements on Mondays or Fridays, keeps her phone away from her person, and blocks weekends completely for family time. (53:38) She emphasizes that if everything is important, nothing is important. Success requires knowing your single most important weekly objective and protecting time to work on it. When you start saying no, people value your time more and often increase their offers. This strategic approach transforms you from reactive to proactive, ensuring your energy goes toward what truly matters rather than everyone else's emergencies.
Success has no universal timeline - Robbins achieved her greatest success in her fifties after decades of struggle. (14:14) The key is distinguishing between what you personally want versus comparing your timeline to others. The "great scattering" after college means everyone moves at different paces, and comparing yourself to others' timelines creates unnecessary anxiety. Focus on what you want rather than when it happens, because your timeline is meant for you and your unique circumstances, including responsibilities like raising children or caring for family.