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Proven Podcast•January 2, 2026

The $50M Exit Playbook Most Founders Don't Know - Chris Van Dusen

Chris Van Dusen shares insights on building successful businesses, navigating venture capital, and helping founders create long-term value through disciplined investing, strategic partnerships, and operational excellence.
Angel Investing
Corporate Strategy
Startup Founders
Venture Capital
B2B SaaS Business
Charles
Chris Van Dusen
John Garcia

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Podcast Summary

In this insightful episode, Charles sits down with Chris Van Dusen, senior partner at Solyco Capital, to explore the intricate world of private equity, venture capital, and strategic business exits. (01:08) Chris shares his journey from accidental entrepreneur to seasoned investor, revealing how his experience scaling and exiting multiple companies shaped his disciplined approach to evaluating investment opportunities. (02:35) The conversation dives deep into the life cycle of companies, from friends and family rounds to multi-million dollar exits, while unpacking critical concepts like EBITDA multiples, customer flywheels, and the difference between financial engineering and sustainable growth.

• Core themes include patient capital philosophy, the importance of operational excellence over financial engineering, and how proper systems and culture create lasting business value that attracts premium acquisition offers.

Speakers

Charles

Host of the Proven Podcast and serial entrepreneur who has successfully sold multiple companies including an IT services firm. Charles brings a practitioner's perspective to business operations and exits, having experienced the challenges of scaling and selling businesses firsthand.

Chris Van Dusen

Senior partner at Solyco Capital, a venture firm with offices across Rochester, Dallas, Louisville, Miami, and California. Chris is a serial entrepreneur who has successfully founded, scaled, and exited multiple companies including the second largest CBD brand in the world, a liquor distillery, and a beauty care brand, all sold by 2021. He graduated from the College of William & Mary with a degree in economics and initially played baseball at a high level before transitioning to finance and eventually becoming an accidental entrepreneur after a real estate recession.

Key Takeaways

Build Customer Acquisition Flywheels, Not Just Marketing Campaigns

Chris emphasized that the most efficient customer acquisition happens through existing customers, not just paid advertising. (23:34) He shared how Dropbox revolutionized growth by making referrals the primary way to get more storage, creating a self-perpetuating cycle where satisfied users became your best salespeople. The key insight is understanding that acquisition cost is fixed, but retention and referral potential is unlimited. This means designing your product or service with viral mechanics built-in, where the value proposition naturally encourages sharing. For example, a project management tool that works better when more team members use it, or a service that provides benefits for both referrer and referee.

Understand Your True Customer Avatar Beyond Demographics

When Chris scaled his CBD company, he discovered their most loyal customers weren't the coastal millennials everyone was targeting, but rather 45+ consumers in middle America who listened to talk radio. (26:56) This revelation came from deep customer analysis and understanding where their audience actually gathered for information. The breakthrough was recognizing that effective marketing isn't about reaching the most people—it's about reaching the right people in their preferred communication channels. This principle applies across industries: a B2B software company might find their decision-makers prefer LinkedIn over Twitter, or that procurement teams respond better to ROI-focused content than innovation stories.

Systems Trump People for Sustainable Growth

Chris highlighted that many businesses fail the "black marker test"—being unable to map their processes from acquisition to fulfillment without the founder's direct involvement. (21:05) This dependency creates an unsellable business and personal prison for the entrepreneur. The solution involves documenting every critical process, creating decision trees for common scenarios, and building redundancy so no single person becomes a bottleneck. Modern AI tools can automate many previously manual tasks, making systematic approaches more cost-effective than hiring additional staff. A practical example: instead of hiring two new customer service reps, implement a chatbot for common queries and create detailed scripts for complex issues.

Focus on EBITDA Multiples, Not Revenue Vanity Metrics

Chris explained that businesses are valued on profit (EBITDA) multiples, not revenue figures. (11:36) A company doing $50 million in sales but only $5 million in EBITDA is worth $50 million at a 10x multiple, not $500 million. This means entrepreneurs should prioritize profit margin optimization over top-line growth. Many founders get seduced by revenue growth while ignoring unit economics and operational efficiency. The most valuable companies combine strong revenue growth with expanding profit margins through scalable business models. For example, a SaaS company with 80% gross margins will command higher multiples than a services business with 20% margins, even at similar revenue levels.

Prepare for the SWAT Team Effect

Chris warned about larger competitors using predatory pricing to eliminate emerging threats once they gain traction. (29:38) He shared how established players would flood markets with discounted products to drown out smaller competitors. The defense strategy involves either getting big enough fast enough to become acquisition targets, or building such strong customer relationships that price alone won't drive switching. This requires focusing on unique value propositions that can't be easily replicated, building switching costs through integration or habit formation, or securing strategic partnerships that provide protection. The goal is becoming more valuable as an acquisition than as a competitor to eliminate.

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