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In this episode of ProfG Markets, hosts Scott Galloway and Ed Elson dive deep into the mounting evidence of an AI bubble. (07:02) They discuss how circular investments between AI companies like OpenAI, AMD, and NVIDIA are creating artificial demand that could lead to a market correction. The conversation then shifts to Tesla's recent struggles, including the abandonment of its Optimus robot project and declining market share. (37:58) Finally, they explore why Europe's strict employment laws may be stifling innovation compared to America's more flexible "hire and fire" culture.
Scott Galloway is a professor at NYU Stern School of Business, bestselling author, and entrepreneur who has founded multiple companies including Section 4 (now Section AI). He serves on the boards of several companies and is a well-known commentator on business and technology trends, having experienced multiple market cycles including the dot-com crash of 2000.
Ed Elson is co-host of ProfG Markets and works as a business analyst covering financial markets and technology trends. He provides data-driven insights and research to complement Scott's commentary on market dynamics and economic trends.
The hosts highlight how AI companies are creating artificial demand through circular investment deals. (07:08) AMD invests in OpenAI, which then spends money back on AMD chips, while NVIDIA invests in xAI, creating a web of interdependence. This pattern mirrors historical bubbles where companies prop each other up rather than generating genuine market demand. The key insight is learning to identify when investment flows are artificially inflating valuations rather than reflecting real business fundamentals. As Scott notes, when everyone starts saying "maybe we are in a new economic reality," that's typically when bubbles are about to burst.
With AI companies accounting for 80% of US stock gains this year, traditional diversification strategies may not be sufficient. (13:27) The top 10 US companies now represent 25% of global equity markets, meaning an S&P 500 fund is actually heavily concentrated in just a few stocks. Scott emphasizes that being in an SPY fund doesn't provide real diversification when 40% consists of 10 companies. The practical application is to examine your portfolio's actual concentration and consider international diversification or inverse ETFs as hedging strategies, though these come with significant risks.
Ed provides crucial perspective on trying to time market corrections, noting that investing only at market highs over a five-year period yields equivalent returns to investing at other times. (24:01) The average time between a market peak and official recession declaration is nine months, giving investors more time than they think to make decisions. This challenges the common urge to predict crashes perfectly. The actionable insight is to maintain consistent investment habits rather than attempting to time entries and exits, especially for younger investors with longer time horizons.
The discussion of Europe vs. America reveals how employment laws impact innovation capacity. (54:52) Firing costs in Germany (31 months of wages) and France (38 months) versus America (7 months) create fundamentally different business dynamics. Scott's experience pivoting Section 4 from education to AI training required scaling from 20 to 120 people, then down to sustainable levels - impossible under European constraints. The framework here is "hire slow, fire fast" - being extremely selective in hiring while maintaining the flexibility to make quick adjustments when strategies aren't working.
Scott introduces the controversial but practical concept of "strategic firing" - removing underperformers to maintain team morale and standards. (59:00) When companies retain poor performers due to legal constraints, it demotivates high achievers who see their extra effort going unrecognized. The actionable approach is to combine rapid performance decisions with generous severance packages. By firing quickly when fit isn't right, companies can afford to be more supportive financially and help departed employees transition successfully, creating a "win-win" departure rather than prolonged decline.