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In this powerful episode, Jay Shetty sits down with legendary life strategist Tony Robbins for an in-depth conversation about breaking through the feeling of being "stuck" that plagues so many people today. (05:05) The discussion centers around decision-making as the fundamental skill for creating change, with Tony sharing his systematic approach to making tough choices and the difference between deciding, committing, and resolving. (13:33) Together, they explore the balance between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment, challenging modern notions of comfort and self-care while emphasizing that growth, not ease, is the true source of confidence and lasting happiness.
Tony Robbins is a number one New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, and the nation's leading life and business strategist. Over the last four decades, he has empowered more than 100 million people across 195 countries through his books, seminars, and coaching. He currently operates 114 companies generating over $10 billion in business and is leading the 100 billion meals challenge to help end hunger worldwide.
Jay Shetty is the host of the On Purpose podcast and a former monk turned global speaker and author. His podcast is designed to help people become happier, healthier, and more healed, creating a space for listeners to learn and grow through meaningful conversations with thought leaders.
Tony reveals that most people think decision-making is a one-step process, but it's actually three distinct phases that must be completed for lasting change. (13:34) The first step is deciding - making a choice in the moment when you're motivated or frustrated enough to commit to change. However, this emotional state is temporary and won't sustain you long-term. The second step is committing, which takes the decision into the future by creating compelling reasons to follow through even when motivation wanes. The third and most powerful step is resolve - where you reach complete psychological peace with your choice, knowing you'll find a way or make a way regardless of obstacles. This is where true confidence and certainty emerge, similar to how elite athletes approach performance with unwavering conviction.
One of the biggest barriers to decision-making is the false belief that you need complete information before acting. (08:01) Tony shares insights from interviewing 50 of the world's most successful financial leaders, who consistently noted that "the smartest people usually are terrible investors" because they want to know everything before deciding. By the time you have perfect information, the opportunity has passed. The key is developing faith - not religious faith necessarily, but the practical faith we use daily, like driving on roads with only a yellow line separating us from potential disaster. Successful people make decisions with incomplete information and adjust course as needed, rather than remaining paralyzed by uncertainty.
Decision-making is like a muscle that strengthens with use and weakens with neglect. (09:49) People who struggle with major life decisions often can't even decide what to eat at a restaurant, keeping servers waiting while they agonize over simple choices. The solution is to start making small decisions quickly and building momentum. Each decision you make, regardless of size, strengthens your decision-making capacity and confidence. The more decisions you make, the faster and more intuitive the process becomes, creating a positive feedback loop that makes larger decisions feel more manageable.
Modern self-care culture has swung too far toward comfort-seeking, contributing to record levels of anxiety and depression among young people. (45:45) Tony cites alarming statistics: 61% of Gen Z has been diagnosed with anxiety disorders, and there's been a 129% increase in antidepressant use among teenage girls since the pandemic. The problem isn't that life has become more stressful - it's that we've been conditioned to avoid discomfort. However, self-esteem is earned through doing difficult things you know are right, not through avoiding challenges. Growth requires pushing against resistance, just like building physical muscle. When you choose comfort over growth, you become weaker, and smaller problems become overwhelming.
Success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure, as demonstrated by Robin Williams' tragic story despite achieving every goal he set. (43:52) The science of achievement is learnable - there are specific patterns and strategies that reliably produce results in business, finances, and health. However, the art of fulfillment is highly individual and requires understanding what personally gives your life meaning. Fulfillment comes from two universal human needs: growth and contribution. When you're growing, you feel alive and have something valuable to give. When you're contributing to something larger than yourself, you tap into sustainable energy and purpose rather than the burnout that comes from purely self-focused achievement.