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In this enlightening episode, former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss reveals the fundamentals of effective negotiation by sharing insights from his 20+ years in high-stakes situations. (00:00) The conversation explores how negotiation skills extend far beyond business deals into everyday relationships and communication. Voss emphasizes that successful negotiation isn't about winning or losing, but about building trust and gathering information to create mutually beneficial outcomes. (07:27) He demonstrates how tactical empathy - making others feel truly heard and understood - can be more powerful than leverage or manipulation tactics.
• Core Theme: True negotiation mastery comes from listening deeply, building trust through tactical empathy, and focusing on long-term collaborative relationships rather than short-term wins.
Chris Voss is a former FBI hostage negotiator with over 20 years of experience handling international kidnapping cases and high-stakes negotiations. After retiring from the FBI, he founded The Black Swan Group and became a bestselling author of "Never Split the Difference." He now teaches negotiation skills to Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, and business leaders worldwide, transforming hostage negotiation techniques into practical business strategies.
The foundation of great negotiation lies in overcoming what Voss calls "hijack moments" - the irresistible urges to interrupt, correct, or relate your own story when someone else is speaking. (01:21) Most people struggle with listening because they're either waiting to speak or listening to rebut. The real challenge comes at step two of listening, where the urge to correct becomes "insanely impossible to overcome." Voss actually uses this human weakness as a negotiation tool, intentionally saying something wrong to trigger people into revealing hidden information. By resisting these hijack moments and truly listening through to the end, you create the foundation for making someone feel genuinely heard and understood.
Tactical empathy involves demonstrating understanding rather than just understanding, which triggers the release of bonding neurochemicals like oxytocin and serotonin. (27:06) Instead of asking "How are you?" Voss recommends using labels - simple observations like "You seem centered" or "Tough day?" These labels gather information while making the other person feel seen. When you make someone feel heard, they become more honest, less demanding, and naturally bond with you. The goal isn't to actually understand everything, but to make them feel completely understood, which often matters more than the actual content of what was said.
Compromise, according to Voss, creates lose-lose situations and correlates strongly with mediocrity. (30:31) Instead of compromising, focus on making the other side feel completely heard first - this alone closes about 25-50% of deals immediately. For remaining negotiations, their position will move closer to yours and they'll be more honest about their real needs. Rather than split things 50-50, look for high-value trades where small percentages of one person's priorities combine with large percentages of another's to create something stronger - like steel being 2% carbon and 98% iron creating an incredibly strong alloy.
Before walking into any negotiation, identify what negative assumptions the other party might have about you, then address them directly. (45:54) Instead of denying these negatives, acknowledge them: "I'm probably going to seem greedy" or "I'm probably just going to seem like another slimy salesperson." This counterintuitive approach instantly makes you appear as a straight shooter and honest person, significantly increasing trust. The brain is naturally 75% negative, so addressing these concerns upfront deactivates potential barriers and positions you as refreshingly transparent compared to others who try to hide their obvious motivations.
The actual deal is just the beginning - successful negotiation is really about creating relationships that can handle the inevitable problems during implementation. (38:04) If you've used leverage or forced someone into a compromise, they'll resent it and won't cooperate when issues arise later. When problems crop up - and they always do - people who felt coerced will keep their mouths shut instead of giving you early warning. This turns small issues into major crises. By focusing on trust and collaboration from the start, you create partners who will work through challenges with you rather than against you.