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In this episode, Jack and Max analyze current market conditions with the government shutdown delaying job reports, while expressing bullish views on AI infrastructure spending and data center buildout. (01:50) They discuss the ongoing artificial intelligence capital expenditure boom, with companies like BlackRock announcing $40 billion data center investments and Microsoft inking $33 billion in deals with cloud providers. (02:17) The conversation covers their positions in Chinese stocks, semiconductors, and precious metals streaming companies, while also exploring potential short positions including insurance companies and dividend-paying stocks with unsustainable payouts.
Jack is an experienced investor and content creator who focuses on macro investing themes, particularly AI infrastructure, Chinese fintech, and precious metals. He demonstrates a willingness to adapt his views based on market conditions and has previously been vocal about being too bearish on certain market calls, showing intellectual honesty in his investment approach.
Max is Jack's business partner at Other People's Money and brings expertise in activist short selling and credit analysis. He has experience working with Real Vision and focuses on following smart money flows, particularly in identifying overvalued companies and unsustainable business models for short opportunities.
The buildout of artificial intelligence infrastructure represents an unprecedented capital expenditure cycle, with tech giants spending massive amounts on next-generation data centers. (01:50) BlackRock announced a $40 billion data center investment, while Microsoft has committed $33 billion to cloud provider deals. These investments are coming from the most profitable companies in history, suggesting sustainability. The key insight is that this isn't just speculation - it's an industrial transformation with real fundamentals backing massive infrastructure development that will generate revenues and profits for years to come.
Jack emphasizes the importance of changing your mind when market conditions shift rather than stubbornly sticking to previous positions. (06:30) He admits to being too bearish in April around Trump tariff concerns and has since adjusted his positioning to be more bullish. The lesson is that successful investing requires constant adaptation and willingness to admit when you're wrong, rather than doubling down on failing positions for the sake of consistency.
Max advocates following experienced activist short sellers rather than trying to identify short opportunities independently. (24:50) He mentions following short reports from former Hindenberg Research members and emphasizes that companies don't typically end up on short sellers' radars because they're great businesses. However, timing is critical - don't jump in immediately after a report is published, as these become battleground stocks with high volatility and borrowing costs.
Silver presents a unique investment opportunity as both an industrial and monetary metal, with over half of demand now coming from industrial uses including AI and chip manufacturing. (18:00) Supply has been flat to declining over the past decade, while industrial demand continues growing. Unlike gold, most silver production comes as a byproduct of other mining operations, creating supply constraints. This dual nature gives silver "bipolar moves" where it can rally both as a store of value and for industrial demand.
Companies paying unsustainable dividends present compelling short opportunities, particularly when combined with declining businesses and limited cash reserves. (29:00) Smith & Wesson exemplifies this with a 193% payout ratio, declining revenues, negative net income, and only $18 million in cash while paying $5.9 million quarterly in dividends. The company benefited from COVID-era gun purchases that are unlikely to repeat, making the dividend cut inevitable and creating a fundamental short thesis.