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McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown joins the In Good Company podcast to discuss the remarkable transformation of one of Formula One's most historic teams. Brown shares how McLaren evolved from a struggling mid-pack team to the current championship leader through strategic leadership changes, cultural transformation, and a people-first approach. (00:47) The conversation explores the delicate balance between passion and emotion in high-stakes decision making, the critical importance of driver dynamics, and how McLaren has revolutionized fan engagement in the modern F1 era. (33:20)
Zak Brown is the CEO of McLaren Racing, having joined the organization in December 2016 during one of its lowest periods. A former racing driver himself, Brown dropped out of school to pursue motorsports and later built a successful career in sports marketing and commercial partnerships. Under his leadership, McLaren has transformed from a struggling team to championship contenders, with the team currently leading the Formula One constructors' championship.
Nicolai Tangen is the CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, which oversees the Norwegian Government Pension Fund Global (Norwegian Wealth Fund). He hosts the In Good Company podcast, where he interviews leaders across various industries to explore business strategies, leadership principles, and organizational transformation.
Brown emphasizes that while having competitive cars is essential, organizational culture ultimately determines success. (00:47) When McLaren struggled, they had talented people and decent equipment, but lacked the cultural foundation for teamwork. The transformation began with getting the leadership team aligned and "rowing in the same direction," which then cascaded throughout the organization. Brown explains how cultural dysfunction at Red Bull caused performance issues despite having the same driver, budget, and car, demonstrating that culture can make or break even the most talented teams.
Brown's first major decision was completely rebuilding his leadership team, replacing nearly all senior positions with either promoted internal talent or external hires. (03:01) He didn't arrive with the intention to make wholesale changes but recognized that fresh perspectives and energy were essential. This wasn't about the previous leaders being "bad people," but rather needing different skills and renewed motivation to drive the transformation forward.
Brown draws a critical distinction between passion, which drives performance, and unchecked emotion, which leads to poor decisions. (14:29) He shares a personal example of making an emotional comment about a racing incident on live television, which he later regretted and publicly apologized for. The key is controlling how you react to emotions rather than trying to eliminate them entirely, especially in high-pressure environments where quick decisions are required.
McLaren's success stems from extensive internal communication that makes every employee understand their critical role in the organization's success. (07:05) Brown conducts various targeted sessions - from company-wide town halls to intimate 20-person breakfasts with new starters, middle managers, and specific demographic groups. This approach helps establish culture early and ensures everyone sees how their work contributes to the team's racing success.
McLaren employs both immediate "hot debriefs" and later "cold debriefs" to maximize learning from both successes and failures. (16:38) The hot debrief captures immediate insights while emotions and details are fresh, while cold debriefs allow for more measured analysis. Brown emphasizes that these sessions focus on improvement rather than blame, with the understanding that mistakes are learning opportunities as long as they're not repeated.