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This episode of Big Technology Podcast dives deep into Apple's latest iPhone releases, examining whether we should still care about smartphone upgrades in the age of generative AI. The hosts discuss Apple's new iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro models, questioning who would actually want the thinner Air model over the more capable Pro versions. (02:18) The conversation explores whether generative AI might threaten the traditional smartphone business model, especially given Apple's struggles with AI implementation compared to competitors. The episode also covers Meta's upcoming smart glasses with displays, OpenAI's massive $300 billion cloud deal with Oracle, and emerging data showing increased business adoption of GPT-5, particularly in manufacturing and finance sectors.
Alex is the host of Big Technology Podcast and founder of Big Technology, a newsletter and media company focused on the intersection of technology and society. He's a veteran tech journalist who has covered major technology companies and trends, previously working as a tech reporter covering major events like Apple's iPhone launches in San Francisco.
Ranjan is the co-founder of Margins, a business analysis platform, and a regular Friday co-host on Big Technology Podcast. He brings a background in finance, having worked on the trading side rather than banking, and provides economic and business perspective on technology trends and developments.
The hosts argue that while Apple continues to make incremental hardware improvements, the real disruption may come from AI-powered operating system interactions. (12:38) Ranjan notes that having Gemini integrated into Android's system layer creates a fundamentally different experience than using Siri, suggesting that superior AI integration could drive platform switching decisions more than camera megapixels or battery life improvements.
Meta's upcoming Hypernova smart glasses with displays point toward a fundamental shift in how we interact with technology. (20:18) The discussion highlights how current phone usage - people walking around staring at screens - may look as antiquated as smoking on airplanes in twenty years. Smart glasses offer the potential to access information and AI assistance without the antisocial behavior of constant phone checking.
Despite the rocky launch of GPT-5, business adoption of AI tools reached 44.5% in August 2025, with OpenAI leading growth at 1.5% increase in business subscriptions. (27:12) Manufacturing and finance sectors showed 32% growth in AI adoption, indicating that improved reasoning capabilities are finally reaching traditionally slower-adopting industries. This suggests the technology is delivering real business value beyond the consumer chatbot experience.
The South Park episode featuring ChatGPT relationships reflects a real trend where companionship and therapy represent the number one use case for AI chatbots. (39:27) The hosts experienced firsthand how AI can provide flirtatious, affirming interactions that never challenge or criticize users. While this serves legitimate needs like elderly care through AI companions like Hyodle, it raises concerns about how constant positive reinforcement might affect human relationships and critical thinking.
Data from Ramp shows a new 5% bump in Saturday restaurant orders from San Francisco businesses, indicating adoption of 9AM-9PM, six-days-a-week work culture. (50:07) This represents a significant cultural shift specific to 2025 and the AI boom, extending beyond just tech companies to retail and other sectors. The trend suggests San Francisco believes intensive work schedules are necessary to compete in the global AI race, though the hosts question whether hours worked correlates with actual productivity.