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This episode explores the biotech industry's paradox: while scientific capabilities have never been stronger, the business of biotech faces significant challenges. Two venture capitalists, Lada Nuzhna from General Control and Elliot Hershberg from Amplify Partners, dissect why drug development costs have ballooned to $2.5 billion per approval while Chinese companies run trials in weeks. (03:00) They discuss how regulatory barriers, industry entrenchment, and geographic arbitrage are reshaping competitive dynamics.
Lada Nuzhna is the founder of General Control, a stealth startup focused on tackling aging through novel therapeutic modalities. She authored the influential analysis "Where Are All the Trillion Dollar Biotechs?" and has become a prominent voice analyzing the structural challenges facing the biotech industry, particularly around regulation, aging research, and the industry's economic dynamics.
Elliot Hershberg is a partner at Amplify Partners, where he invests in next-generation biotech platform companies. He focuses on companies developing new modalities and infrastructure technologies that enable breakthrough drug discovery, with particular expertise in the intersection of AI, biology, and drug development.
Erik Torenberg serves as the host of the a16z podcast and is a partner at a16z, where he focuses on early-stage investments and thought leadership around technology trends and their societal implications.
Elliot identifies three core challenges driving biotech's inefficiency: structural/regulatory barriers, our fundamental lack of understanding of biology (leading to Phase 2 failures), and limitations in molecular design capabilities. (25:59) The regulatory and cultural entrenchment is particularly problematic - clinical research organizations have consolidated into about a dozen providers who aren't incentivized to adopt cost-reducing innovations. This creates a lag between regulatory modernization and actual implementation, keeping trial costs artificially high at around $500,000 per patient versus $10,000 when Regeneron started.
China has implemented several deregulatory moves that dramatically reduce trial timelines, including implied approval (30-day default approval unless actively held) and parallel review processes. (15:58) Most significantly, investigator-initiated trials in China cut review timelines by 5-6x, particularly for high-risk modalities like cell and gene therapy. This has forced American companies to routinely start trials abroad - none of Amplify's next 12-18 months of first-in-human trials will begin in the US, highlighting how regulatory friction is driving innovation offshore.
As discovery technologies become commoditized, competition shifts to speed and cost - areas where China has significant advantages. (18:22) The solution isn't to compete on these dimensions but to "invent our way out" by creating medicines that are impossible to make without new tools. This requires focusing on novel modalities, new biology, and breakthrough mechanisms rather than fast-following existing approaches. The risk profile shifts toward technical founders and platform companies that can access previously impossible target product profiles.
While AI will become ubiquitous in biotech within five years, its primary value won't be in reducing the $2.5 billion development cost since most money is spent on clinical trials and commercialization, not preclinical discovery. (24:27) AI's real impact will be in making previously impossible medicines by enabling complex polyspecific molecules, better target identification, and platform-based approaches like personalized cancer vaccines that blur the line between diagnostics and therapeutics. This could unlock entirely new categories of medicines rather than just making existing processes cheaper.
The next wave of blockbuster drugs will likely target aging and chronic diseases, but current incentive structures work against this. (35:05) The multi-payer system before age 65 means no single entity benefits from preventative medicine investments, while Medicare kicks in too late for prevention. Lada proposes an "orphan drug designation for common diseases" to incentivize development of aging therapeutics, given their high failure rates and long development timelines. The GLP-1 success demonstrates the market appetite for drugs targeting fundamental biological processes across multiple indications.