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In this captivating episode of The Uncensored CMO, host John Evans sits down with Zaria Parvez, the creative mastermind who transformed Duolingo from 750,000 followers to over 17 million across social platforms. (01:34) Zaria recently made headlines with her move from Duolingo to DoorDash, where she's taking on the challenge of bringing social-first thinking to a traditional brand. The conversation dives deep into the secrets behind Duolingo's viral success, from the infamous "killing Duo" campaign (11:23) to sending the mascot's ashes to Dua Lipa. (13:23)
Zaria Parvez is a social media strategist who joined Duolingo in 2020 straight out of university at age 22 and transformed the company's social presence from 750,000 to over 17 million followers. She was the creative force behind viral campaigns including the "Dead Duo" phenomenon and worked closely with the Duolingo mascot to create 8 billion impressions over five years. She recently transitioned to DoorDash as their head of social media, taking on the challenge of bringing social-first thinking to a traditional brand.
John Evans is the host of The Uncensored CMO podcast and works in marketing strategy. He conducts in-depth interviews with marketing leaders and has experience in brand research, having worked with companies like System One on TikTok marketing effectiveness studies.
Zaria's success at Duolingo stemmed from being given creative freedom from day one, without knowing she needed permission for posts to go out. (05:06) She approached content creation as a creator rather than an advertiser, which allowed for more authentic and engaging content. This naive mindset actually helped her avoid the typical corporate constraints that can stifle creativity. When transitioning to new roles, she emphasizes setting expectations early about needing creative freedom to succeed, even telling her new boss at DoorDash that this was non-negotiable for her success.
One of the key cultural conditions for successful social campaigns is not being afraid of negative sentiment. (14:14) Zaria learned that anything that goes viral will inevitably come with about 15% negative feedback, and accepting this allows for greater creative freedom. She uses an interesting filter: if other marketers are criticizing their work, that's often a good sign because marketers aren't representative of the average consumer. This mindset shift from fear to acceptance of criticism enables brands to take bigger creative risks.
Effective social content creation involves identifying 3-4 core human truths about your brand and injecting trends into those consistent themes. (16:25) For Duolingo, these truths included "language learning is hard," "people enjoy using language to talk trash," and the idea that learning should be fun. By having these parameters clearly defined, it becomes easier to shape trending topics into brand-relevant content. This framework ensures consistency while allowing for creative flexibility within established boundaries.
Zaria shares a strategic framework from Wimbledon's social team that categorizes content into three types: bonfire (day-to-day content), campfire (medium-tier content), and firework (once-quarterly major viral moments). (18:37) This framework helps balance short-term reactive content with long-term strategic planning. The "Dead Duo" campaign exemplified a firework moment - original creative work designed to break the internet rather than just follow trends. This structure also helps with resource allocation and risk management across different content tiers.
Zaria emphasizes that building a personal brand alongside corporate work is crucial because "the only thing you can genuinely have that is fully yours is what you put out in the world." (25:38) Her LinkedIn post about being behind Duolingo's success became the foundation of her personal brand, opening doors and creating opportunities beyond her corporate role. She advises that since everyone works for corporations, having your own platform and voice provides security and leverage in your career, while also serving as a walking advertisement for your employer.