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The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck
The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck•September 4, 2025

AI Video’s Wild Year – Runway CEO on What’s Next

Chris Valenzuela, CEO of Runway, discusses the company's journey in AI video technology, highlighting their growth from a small startup to a leading AI research lab that helps create impressive AI videos and worlds. The episode explores Runway's innovative models, their approach to creative AI, and their vision of transforming storytelling through technology.
Creator Economy
AI & Machine Learning
Developer Culture
UX/UI Design
Chris Valenzuela
Matt Turk
IMAX
Runway

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Podcast Summary

In this compelling episode, Matt Turk sits down with Chris Valenzuela, CEO of Runway, to explore how AI is fundamentally reshaping video creation and storytelling. Chris reveals how Runway's journey from a 2018 startup—when few believed in AI-generated media—has evolved into a foundational research lab powering Hollywood studios, advertising agencies, and creators worldwide. The conversation dives deep into Runway's breakthrough models Gen 4 and Aleph (07:44), which allow users to modify videos through visual annotations rather than text prompts alone, representing what Chris calls "a new kind of camera" that could birth entirely new creative mediums. From managing expectations around AI's creative capabilities to the looming real-time generation of explorable 3D worlds, this episode captures both the technical innovation and philosophical implications of AI becoming a core tool in human storytelling.

Speakers

Chris Valenzuela

CEO of Runway, a foundational AI research lab building industry-leading video generation models (Gen-3, Gen-4, and Aleph). Led development from early 2018 when few believed in AI video, through today's partnerships with major studios like Lionsgate and widespread adoption across filmmaking, advertising, and creative industries.

Matt Turk (Host)

Partner at Firstmark Capital, host of the MAD podcast focusing on AI and emerging technologies. Runs the Data Driven NYC meetup series and regularly interviews leading AI founders and researchers about breakthrough technologies and their business implications.

Key Takeaways

Embrace Conviction When Others Don't See It

When building something truly innovative, expect years of resistance from the best investors and researchers in the world telling you it's "a waste of time." (16:36) This skepticism becomes fuel - every "no" represents another person you need to prove wrong. The key is maintaining obsessive conviction when few believe, because when something becomes obvious to everyone, it's already too late to build a meaningful advantage.

Generate in Quantity, Not Linear Steps

AI creative tools break traditional workflows where you click export and wait hours for a single render. Instead, generate thousands of variations simultaneously, then iterate from the best results. (13:13) Professionals attached to linear, one-at-a-time processes struggle most with AI adoption. The winning approach: treat AI generation like brainstorming - volume first, then refinement.

Pick Principles Over Verticals

Traditional software companies pick specific industries (Adobe for creatives, Autodesk for architects), but AI companies should pick underlying principles that scale across all verticals. (29:09) Focus on generalizable models, data quality, and scale rather than building specialized solutions. This allows the same UI and product to serve Hollywood studios, architects, and advertisers without customization.

Build Infrastructure as Your Moat

The real competitive advantage isn't any single model release - it's the organizational knowledge and infrastructure to ship successive models faster than competitors. (42:13) While others judge outputs, focus on building research workflows, data management systems, and training pipelines. This invisible infrastructure becomes your sustainable edge as model generations accelerate from yearly to monthly releases.

Operate Your Organization Like an AI Model

Treat your company as a learning system that ingests market data, processes it through your team's collective knowledge, and outputs decisions. (61:57) Like training models, you feed outputs back as input data and continuously adjust the organizational "weights." The moment you stop learning and adapting to new data signals is when growth stops. Companies should be self-improving systems, not static hierarchies.

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