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Alfred Lin, Sequoia Capital partner and number one on the Midas List, shares his insights on identifying outlier founders and building category-defining companies. In this conversation, Lin explores Sequoia's founder-first investment philosophy and reveals how the firm has distributed over $43B to investors since 2020. (02:57) He discusses the concept of "outlier founders" - those who are four standard deviations above the mean - and explains how Sequoia sees about 1,000 companies before making one investment. The discussion covers compelling case studies from his portfolio including Kalshi's regulatory battles, Zipline's dramatic pivot from mobile robotics to medical drones, and DoorDash's efficiency-first approach that outcompeted Uber Eats. (18:00)
Alfred Lin is a Partner at Sequoia Capital and sits at Number 1 on the Midas List for two consecutive years. He has been instrumental in Sequoia's success, helping distribute over $43B to investors since 2020. Lin brings a unique operator-turned-investor perspective, having previously been an executive at companies before joining Sequoia, where he focuses on early-stage investments and works closely with outlier founders to build category-defining companies.
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Sequoia focuses on founders who are "four standard deviations above the mean" - truly exceptional individuals with unique insights into solving world problems. (02:57) Lin explains that these founders don't just see opportunities; they have a deep conviction that the world is solving a problem incorrectly and possess the "daringness and purpose" to change it. This explains why Sequoia sees approximately 1,000 companies before making one investment. The key is identifying founders who combine exceptional skill with a novel worldview and the courage to act on it, rather than settling for merely competent entrepreneurs.
In the competitive landscape, Lin advocates that "your business model is your strategic weapon, your product is your strategic weapon, your efficiency or unit economics is your strategic weapon" rather than capital itself. (18:48) Using DoorDash as an example, he explains how they competed against better-funded Uber by being twice as efficient - getting twice as many customers for every $100 spent on acquisition. This principle applies broadly: focus on building superior unit economics and operational efficiency before pouring capital into growth, as capital without a strong foundation is like "pouring fuel on the ground" instead of on a fire.
Lin emphasizes that "quality of the revenue matters" and warns against the common practice of counting pilot or experimental revenue as recurring revenue. (25:59) He breaks down different types of problematic revenue including pilot revenue, revenue share (quoting gross instead of net), marketplace GMV versus actual take rate, and professional services revenue. The key insight is that while companies can reach $100M in revenue quickly, if that revenue churns away, "you're gonna go back to zero pretty quickly." Focus on building sustainable, recurring revenue streams rather than chasing revenue milestones through experimental or one-time sources.
Lin describes Sequoia's board philosophy as being "shock absorbers during bad times and sparring partners during good times." (10:36) When companies face hardship, the best approach is to "roll up your sleeves, pick up the pieces, and help the company get through that hardship" rather than adding pressure. However, when things are going well, board members should challenge founders to reach the next level and prevent the "hubris of much success" - the first sign of why companies fail according to Jim Collins. This balanced approach helps founders navigate both adversity and success effectively.
Instead of obsessing over revenue milestones, Lin advocates measuring "the velocity of the company, not just revenue growth." (34:07) He emphasizes the importance of input metrics like engagement and retention over output metrics like revenue alone. Using Amazon's approach, he suggests tracking engagement first, then retention, then monetization. Companies should focus on delivering value before capturing it, ensuring their cohort curves "smile" (improve over time) rather than racing to arbitrary revenue benchmarks. This approach builds stronger, more sustainable businesses that can compete effectively in today's accelerated technology landscape.