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In this episode of the Proved Podcast, host Charles interviews Jennifer Edwards, a renowned communication expert and author of "Bridge the Gap," about mastering authentic connection in our increasingly polarized world. Edwards argues that true connection starts with internal work and self-awareness before we can effectively connect with others. (01:20) She emphasizes that curiosity may be the only antidote to the breakdown in relationships we're experiencing today.
Jennifer Edwards is a communication expert and author of "Bridge the Gap" published by McGraw Hill. She specializes in helping high-performing CEOs and leaders develop connection skills to optimize their business relationships and team dynamics. Edwards has been featured on over 150 podcasts and works extensively with clients to bridge communication gaps in polarized environments.
Charles is the host of the Proved Podcast and a negotiation expert who has worked with high-level executives, military officers, and billionaire clients. He specializes in tactical communication strategies and has written extensively about human behavior and connection in business settings.
Edwards emphasizes that true connection with others begins with being "connected deeply in your two brains" - head and gut. (02:35) You must "come in clean" and be aware of your own internal state before attempting to connect with others. This means starting your day intentionally through practices like breathwork, meditation, and gratitude rather than immediately consuming external noise through social media or email. The quality of your first thoughts sets up your entire day for success or failure.
Edwards shares Dr. William Glasser's reality therapy framework for breaking out of "sleepwalking" patterns: What do I want? What am I doing? Is what I'm doing getting me what I want? If not, what's my plan? (19:34) This simple sequence helps you gain clarity about your actual goals versus unconscious patterns, enabling you to make intentional choices rather than operating on autopilot.
While psychological safety is important, Edwards introduces the concept of "psychological flexibility" as the secret weapon for bridging gaps. (45:25) This involves being genuinely curious about others' perspectives and asking open-ended questions like "tell me about..." rather than leading with "why" questions that trigger defensiveness. Let people fully express themselves without immediately responding with your own position.
Edwards advises surrounding yourself with people who are geniuses in their own areas rather than trying to be the smartest person in the room. (38:00) The key is being fearless about bringing in others who have unparalleled optimization and skill sets you don't possess. This requires overcoming ego and fear to create genuine collaborative environments.
Edwards explains that every person is an unconscious "virus" whose energy impacts any room they enter. (76:57) The critical decision is choosing who you want to be before entering that space. Your energy will shift the room's dynamic regardless, so being intentional about showing up with generosity and presence becomes the most powerful tool for creating optimal outcomes.