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In this powerful live episode from Boston's Wang Theatre, Jay Shetty sits down with his longtime friend Mel Robbins for an honest conversation about overcoming self-criticism, people-pleasing, and the fear of others' opinions. (03:18) Mel shares groundbreaking insights about why we're more self-critical than ever before, revealing that humans were never meant to see themselves as frequently as we do today through mirrors, selfies, and video calls. (07:06) The discussion explores practical strategies for quieting your inner critic, breaking free from people-pleasing patterns, and learning to prioritize your own needs without guilt.
Host of the On Purpose podcast and New York Times bestselling author who spent three years as a monk before becoming one of the world's most influential life coaches. He has amassed millions of followers through his wisdom-based content and has interviewed hundreds of thought leaders and experts.
Former lawyer turned motivational speaker, bestselling author, and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast, which became the #1 education podcast in the world. She's the creator of the viral "5 Second Rule" and has transformed millions of lives through her practical, no-nonsense approach to personal development and has recently been featured on major platforms including appearances with Oprah.
Mel reveals that humans were never designed to see themselves constantly - historically, mirrors were rare and unclear. (07:06) Today's unprecedented self-exposure through cameras, video calls, and social media triggers our brain's judgment mechanism that was meant for assessing others, not ourselves. Understanding that your self-criticism isn't a personal flaw but a byproduct of modern culture can be profoundly liberating. This awareness helps you realize you're not broken - you're responding normally to an abnormal amount of self-exposure that previous generations never experienced.
Mel reframes people-pleasing from a "soft" weakness into what it truly is: manipulation. (23:42) When you stay silent, do things you don't want to do, or avoid expressing boundaries just to be liked, you're manipulating others' perceptions of you. This reframe is empowering because it reveals people-pleasing as a strategy rather than a character flaw. Recognizing this pattern allows you to catch yourself in the act and make conscious choices about when you're willing to compromise your authenticity for approval.
The pathway out of people-pleasing begins with honoring your body's basic needs - eating when hungry, using the bathroom when needed, and taking breaks when exhausted. (27:07) These small acts of self-care create separation between you and others' expectations. If you can't advocate for your basic physiological needs because you're worried about others' opinions, you'll never be able to draw bigger boundaries when higher stakes are involved. This practice builds the muscle of self-advocacy in low-risk situations.
Jealousy reveals what you truly want and acts as a messenger pointing toward your desires. (44:01) Mel explains that you can't be jealous of something you don't want - jealousy is you blocking what's meant for you with your insecurity. Instead of using jealousy to tear others down, use it as data about your own aspirations. The person you're jealous of isn't taking anything from you; they're giving you something by showing you what's possible and lighting the path forward.
When facing uncertainty or setbacks, develop the mantra "I refuse to believe this is how it ends." (59:26) This perspective recognizes that every experience, good or bad, is preparing you for something in the future that you can't yet see. Your current struggles are bricks in the path leading somewhere meaningful, even if it takes years to understand why certain experiences were necessary. This faith-based approach helps you outlast yourself and persist through challenges when quitting feels easier.