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Monetary Matters with Jack Farley•September 7, 2025

The Era of AI Semiconductor CapEx | Angus Shillington & Nick Frasse (Fireside Chat)

A deep dive into the semiconductor industry's transformation driven by AI, featuring VanEck's Angus Shillington and Nick Frasse discussing the massive capital expenditure in AI, the rise of fabless semiconductor companies, and the potential long-term impact of this technological revolution. The conversation explores the growth of companies like NVIDIA, the unique investment opportunities in VanEck's semiconductor ETFs SMH and SMHX, and why this AI-driven semiconductor boom differs from previous tech cycles.
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Jensen Huang
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Angus Shillington
Nick Frasse
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Podcast Summary

In this revealing discussion on Monetary Matters, VanEck's semiconductor analysts Angus Shillington and Nick Frasse break down why AI CapEx spending—now exceeding 1% of GDP—represents a fundamental shift from traditional cyclical semiconductor markets to a landscape dominated by "monopolies on monopolies." They explore how hyperscalers like Google, Meta, and Microsoft are driving unprecedented demand (04:00), with companies admitting they're struggling to keep pace with investment needs. Unlike the dot-com bubble driven by venture capital, this boom is powered by the most profitable companies in history, creating sustained demand that flows through the entire semiconductor stack from NVIDIA's GPUs to TSMC's foundries (06:34). The conversation reveals why VanEck's SMH and SMHX ETFs have consistently outperformed competitors through thoughtful index construction that allows winners to run while capturing both established players and emerging fabless innovators positioned for the next wave of AI infrastructure buildout.

Speakers

Angus Shillington

Lead semiconductor analyst and deputy portfolio manager at VanEck, actively investing client capital in the semiconductor space. He specializes in analyzing market structure, technology inflections, and AI roadmaps with a focus on identifying monopoly-level companies in the semiconductor stack.

Nick Frasse

Product manager covering VanEck's thematic suite of ETFs, including SMH and SMHX semiconductor funds. He oversees the strategic development and intelligent design of passive indexes for high-growth technology sectors, with expertise in constructing pure-play thematic investments.

Jack (Host)

Host of Monetary Matters podcast, conducting in-depth conversations on macroeconomic trends and investment opportunities. He explores how AI capital expenditure representing over 1% of GDP is driving the current economic cycle.

Key Takeaways

Embrace the Monopoly Stack

Semiconductors have evolved from cyclical to monopolistic - NVIDIA dominates GPUs, TSMC controls 70% of foundry market share, SK Hynix owns 70% of memory. When monopolies control the entire value chain, cyclicality disappears and sustainable competitive advantages emerge. (02:14)

Let Winners Run in High-Beta Sectors

The top-performing semiconductor ETF allows market cap weighting to naturally concentrate in dominant players. NVIDIA moved from 0% to 20%+ weighting purely through performance, while Intel fell from #1 holding to outside the top 10. Don't fight the tape when clear winners emerge. (27:16)

Separate Design from Manufacturing for Speed

Fabless companies can pivot faster than vertically integrated competitors - NVIDIA transformed from gaming GPUs to data center dominance because they weren't tied to manufacturing constraints. The separation of chip design and fabrication creates higher-margin, more agile businesses that can iterate quickly. (35:46)

Focus on Pace Over Linear Projections

Google's CEO admitted underinvesting in AI despite having "all the data and capital in the world." The most sophisticated players are still behind the curve on demand acceleration. When even the best-resourced companies can't keep pace, supply/demand imbalances create sustained pricing power. (13:38)

Target the Application Layer Opportunity

Current infrastructure buildout (data centers, GPUs) represents phase one. The real monetization opportunity lies in the coming application layer - specialized chips for power optimization, networking, and vertical-specific AI solutions. Position for what's next, not just what's happening now. (48:42)

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Statistics & Facts

  1. 1% of GDP is being spent on AI CapEx, representing a dominant driver of the current economic cycle that has surpassed traditional drivers like labor markets and consumer spending. (00:52)
  2. NVIDIA is achieving 40-50% EPS growth annually despite being the largest publicly listed company in the world, with forward P/E ratio around 33-34. (10:22)
  3. TSMC commands 70% market share in semiconductor foundry services, operating as a monopoly alongside other monopolistic players throughout the semiconductor stack including Hynix with 70% memory market share. (02:55)

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