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Will Shu, founder of Deliveroo, shares his remarkable journey from investment banking to building one of Europe's leading food delivery platforms. Starting with a simple observation about London's lack of delivery culture in 2004, Shu transformed a personal frustration into a business that redefined urban dining convenience. (00:46) The conversation covers Deliveroo's evolution from a one-man operation to a global network spanning 10 markets, culminating in its acquisition by DoorDash for $3.9 billion in 2024.
Will Shu is the founder and former CEO of Deliveroo, who built the company from a single-person delivery service into a global food delivery platform operating across 10 markets. A former investment banker at Morgan Stanley and hedge fund analyst, Shu moved to London in 2004 where he identified the gap in food delivery services. He holds an MBA from Wharton and led Deliveroo through multiple funding rounds, an IPO on the London Stock Exchange, and ultimately its acquisition by DoorDash for $3.9 billion.
Henrique Dubugras is the co-founder and CEO of Brex, a financial technology company serving startups and fast-growing businesses. Born in Brazil, he moved to Silicon Valley as a teenager and has built Brex into a platform supporting over 30,000 companies including Anthropic, DoorDash, and Scale AI. He hosts the HD in HD podcast, featuring conversations with exceptional founders about their entrepreneurial journeys.
Shu emphasizes the importance of being a "meathead" about execution rather than over-analyzing business decisions. (55:00) When starting Deliveroo, he didn't focus on detailed market analysis or unit economics modeling - instead, he asked simple questions: "Do I think a user wants this experience? Do I want this experience?" This approach allowed him to move quickly while competitors were still planning. The lesson is that in the early stages of building a company, perfect analysis can be the enemy of progress, and rapid execution often reveals insights that no amount of planning could predict.
Unlike social media or global platforms, food delivery operates as a neighborhood-by-neighborhood business where network effects are intensely local. (05:15) Shu explains that success comes from having the best "price, selection, and service in this area" rather than global scale advantages. This insight shaped Deliveroo's approach to expansion and competition, focusing resources on dominating specific geographic areas rather than spreading thin across markets. For entrepreneurs in location-based businesses, this means prioritizing depth over breadth in market penetration.
Deliveroo's competitive advantage came from obsessive attention to operational details that compound over time. (19:57) Shu describes "Project Porkpie," a cross-disciplinary team focused on reducing order delivery failures through hundreds of small improvements like delivery codes, address verification, and photo confirmations. These incremental technological solutions to real-world problems created a significantly better customer experience over time. The key is treating every operational pain point as a solvable technology problem rather than accepting them as industry norms.
When deploying capital for market share, Shu advocates for isolating the impact of each individual decision rather than broad-based spending. (23:30) Whether it's restaurant exclusives, user promotions, or rider incentives, every action should be evaluated based on its measurable impact on customer lifetime value. While perfect measurement isn't possible, having a framework that connects spending to outcomes prevents the "crazy shit" that happens when companies spend without clear attribution. This discipline becomes critical when competing against well-funded rivals.
Shu challenges the common founder narrative about sacrifice, arguing that founders do what they do because they want to, not because they're sacrificing for the company. (104:18) "You haven't sacrificed shit. You did it because you wanted to do it," he states. While there are consequences like tiredness or strained relationships, these stem from choosing to build something you love. This perspective is crucial for founder mental health - recognizing that you're pursuing your passion, not martyring yourself, maintains the love for the work that's essential for long-term success.