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In this episode of the HBR Ideacast, Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez argues that organizations must fundamentally shift from operational-focused structures to project-driven models to remain competitive in today's rapidly changing business environment. He explains that traditional operational work is becoming automated, requiring companies to redeploy talent toward transformation and innovation projects. (02:37) The discussion covers how senior leaders need to spend significantly more time on transformation work rather than day-to-day operations, with research showing 80% of leaders currently spend less than half a day on transformation projects. (14:33) Nieto-Rodriguez emphasizes that this isn't a cost-cutting exercise but rather about reskilling employees for more meaningful work while building internal transformation capabilities instead of relying on external consultants.
Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez is the CEO of Projects & Company and a leading expert in project management and organizational transformation. He is the author of multiple books including "Powered by Projects: Leading Your Organization in the Transformation Age" and "The Project Handbook," as well as the HBR article "The Project Driven Organization." With decades of experience in project management, he has researched and consulted with large organizations worldwide on how to build transformation capabilities and move from operational-focused to project-driven business models.
Organizations launch far more projects than they finish, creating capacity overload and reducing effectiveness. (17:55) Nieto-Rodriguez reveals that most companies could cancel 80% of their current projects without impact, highlighting the need for leaders to be more selective. The solution involves asking two critical questions: How often do you launch new initiatives versus how often do you finish them? Before starting any new project, organizations should stop two or three existing ones to create capacity. This approach ensures teams can focus on what truly matters and aligns with the company's core purpose rather than spreading resources thin across numerous initiatives.
Research shows that 80% of senior leaders spend less than half a day per week on transformation work, dedicating most of their time to operational activities they're comfortable with. (14:33) This represents a fundamental misallocation of leadership time in today's rapidly changing environment. Leaders need to spend at least half their time, if not more, on transformation projects where every day is different and requires quick decision-making under uncertainty. This shift is uncomfortable for many executives who rose through operational roles, but it's essential for driving organizational change and staying competitive in the transformation age.
For the past 20 years, most large companies have outsourced transformation work to consultants while keeping internal people focused on day-to-day operations. (22:47) This approach needs to fundamentally change - organizations must build "transformation muscles" within their own workforce. Employees need to become comfortable with change and skilled at working on projects rather than repetitive tasks. While consultants still have a role in providing advice and coaching, the heavy lifting of transformation should be done by internal teams. This shift is particularly urgent as Asian companies already demonstrate these capabilities, potentially giving them a competitive advantage over slower-moving Western organizations.
The first step in becoming project-driven is transforming organizational culture to embrace failure as part of innovation and encourage exponential rather than incremental thinking. (05:00) Most current projects focus on incremental improvements, but the real power of projects lies in their ability to enable exponential leaps forward. Leaders must create an environment where people feel comfortable taking risks, knowing that some projects will fail, and where teams are empowered to think broadly about possibilities. This cultural shift requires sponsorship from the top and patience to see long-term results rather than demanding immediate returns.
In a project-driven organization, strategy becomes more fluid as companies need to adapt based on project outcomes and changing market conditions. (15:28) This approach requires significantly more trust between leaders and teams, as well as patience from boards and shareholders who must focus on long-term value creation rather than immediate results. Companies like Amazon demonstrate this approach by maintaining long-term focus while building transformation capacity that enables continuous adaptation. The key is measuring performance differently and having stakeholders understand that building transformation capabilities takes time but creates sustainable competitive advantage.