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Hard Fork•December 5, 2025

OpenAI Calls a ‘Code Red’ + Which Model Should I Use? + The Hard Fork Review of Slop

In this episode, Kevin Roose and Casey Newton discuss OpenAI's "code red" response to competitive pressure from Google's Gemini and Anthropic's Claude, explore the latest AI models, and review recent examples of AI-generated "slop" across various domains.
Creator Economy
AI & Machine Learning
Tech Policy & Ethics
Developer Culture
B2B SaaS Business
Sam Altman
Kevin Roose
Casey Newton

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Podcast Summary

In this week's episode of Hard Fork, Kevin Roose and Casey Newton dive deep into the mounting competitive pressures facing OpenAI as it faces a "code red" situation. (02:26) The discussion centers around how recent model releases from Google's Gemini 3 and Anthropic's Claude Opus 4.5 have challenged OpenAI's dominance in the AI landscape, forcing Sam Altman to redirect resources toward improving ChatGPT while delaying other initiatives like ads and AI agents.

  • Main theme: The shifting competitive dynamics in AI as multiple companies release state-of-the-art models that challenge OpenAI's previous technological moat, exploring what this means for the future of AI development and market positioning.

Speakers

Kevin Roose

Kevin Roose is the tech columnist at The New York Times and co-host of Hard Fork. He covers artificial intelligence, technology platforms, and their impact on society, bringing both journalistic rigor and accessible analysis to complex tech topics.

Casey Newton

Casey Newton is the founder of Platformer, a newsletter covering the intersection of technology and democracy. He previously worked as senior editor at The Verge and brings deep expertise in social media platforms, content moderation, and AI development to his analysis.

Key Takeaways

The Era of AI Model Moats is Ending

The competitive landscape has fundamentally shifted as Google's Gemini 3 and Anthropic's Claude Opus 4.5 have reached or exceeded ChatGPT's capabilities in many areas. (05:46) For months, OpenAI survived on having the best models in the world, but that technological advantage is eroding. When models become commoditized and multiple companies offer similar capabilities, distribution advantages become crucial - and Google's massive reach through its existing products gives it a significant edge over OpenAI's subscription-dependent business model.

Speed and User Experience Matter More Than Marginal Quality Improvements

Gemini 3's primary advantage isn't necessarily being smarter than ChatGPT, but being significantly faster. (14:14) Newton notes that while ChatGPT's fact-checking might be more thorough, Gemini 3's speed makes it more likely to be used regularly. In AI tools, responsiveness often trumps perfect accuracy for daily workflows, suggesting that user experience optimization may be more valuable than pursuing the absolute smartest model.

Enterprise Markets Require Different Strategies Than Consumer Markets

Anthropic has captured significant enterprise market share by focusing on developer tools and agentic workflows rather than competing directly with ChatGPT for consumers. (29:02) The company went from less than $1 billion to approximately $9 billion in annualized revenue by targeting businesses that need robust coding and automation capabilities. This demonstrates that there are multiple viable paths to AI success beyond winning the consumer chatbot race.

AI Model Personalities and Behavior Design Are Becoming Differentiators

As capabilities converge, the way AI models interact with users becomes increasingly important. (21:58) Claude Opus 4.5's "soul document" represents Anthropic's attempt to give their AI a consistent philosophical approach across all interactions. Newton describes it as playing "in the same musical key" - maintaining a coherent personality that builds user trust and preference, even when competing models might have similar raw capabilities.

AI Tools Are Most Effective When Combined With Human Expertise

The most successful AI implementations blend artificial and human intelligence rather than replacing human judgment entirely. (47:17) Newton's Thanksgiving cooking example illustrates this perfectly - using Kenji Lopez Alt's proven turkey recipe as the foundation while turning to AI for real-time guidance and troubleshooting. This hybrid approach leverages the strengths of both human expertise (proven methods, contextual knowledge) and AI capabilities (instant access, adaptive advice).

Statistics & Facts

  1. Google reported that approximately 650 million people per month are now using Gemini, while OpenAI claims more than 800 million weekly users of ChatGPT. (16:12) The hosts note that neither company reports daily usage numbers, suggesting most people still don't use AI tools daily.
  2. Anthropic's revenue grew from less than $1 billion to approximately $9 billion in annualized revenue within a single year, driven primarily by enterprise sales. (29:02) This represents one of the fastest growth trajectories for any startup in history.
  3. OpenAI is projected to have about $20 billion in revenue for 2025, meaning Anthropic's enterprise success represents significant market share that could have gone to OpenAI or Google. (29:46)

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