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Hard Fork•September 5, 2025

A.I. School Is in Session: Two Takes on the Future of Education

A podcast episode exploring how AI is transforming education from K-12 to college, featuring interviews with an innovative school founder, a Princeton professor, and student perspectives on using AI for learning, motivation, and personal growth.
Learning How to Learn
AI & Machine Learning
Remote Work
Developer Culture
Mackenzie Price
Kevin Roose
Casey Newton
D. Graham Burnett

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Podcast Summary

In this comprehensive back-to-school episode, tech journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore the transformative impact of AI on education three years after ChatGPT's launch. They dive deep into innovative approaches across K-12 and higher education, featuring Alpha School cofounder Mackenzie Price's radical reimagining of the school day where students complete personalized AI-powered academics in just (05:05) two hours daily, then focus on life skills workshops. Princeton historian Graham Burnett offers a fascinating counterpoint on how AI could actually revitalize the humanities by forcing institutions to focus on deeper questions of human meaning rather than rote knowledge transfer (29:57). The episode concludes with authentic student voices from MIT to Germany, revealing how they're using AI as sophisticated learning companions—from automated study systems to language translation—while grappling with concerns about academic integrity and the risk of "corner cutting" their own education.

Speakers

Kevin Roose (Host)

Tech columnist at The New York Times, co-host of Hard Fork podcast. As he notes in the episode, he covers technology developments and their impact on society.

Casey Newton (Host)

Writer from Platformer, co-host of Hard Fork podcast. He brings expertise in tech journalism and platform analysis to education technology discussions.

Mackenzie Price

Co-founder of Alpha Schools, a private school network reimagining K-12 education. She launched her first school in 2014 and has developed AI-powered personalized learning systems that compress traditional academics into 2 hours daily.

D. Graham Burnett

Professor of history of science and technology at Princeton University, author of the New Yorker essay "Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?" His research focuses on attention management and he's pioneering new AI-integrated assignments for humanities students.

Key Takeaways

Leverage AI for Personalized Learning Acceleration

Replace inefficient one-size-fits-all classroom time with AI-powered individualized lessons, compressing traditional 6-hour academic days into focused 2-hour blocks. (12:21) This allows professionals to master core competencies faster while dedicating remaining time to high-value collaborative projects and skill development that only humans can provide.

Transform Your Role from Information Transmitter to Motivation Architect

Stop being the source of knowledge—become the catalyst for engagement and growth mindset development. (13:23) Focus 90% of your energy on understanding what drives each team member and connecting their intrinsic motivations to learning objectives, while letting AI handle the 10% that is content delivery and pacing.

Design AI-Augmented Conversation Assignments

Create structured dialogues with AI systems where learners must synthesize, critique, and defend their ideas against sophisticated counterarguments. (32:08) This develops critical thinking skills while helping individuals access their "full intellectual force" without social constraints or fear of judgment.

Shift from Information Gatekeeping to Skill Authentication

Accept that traditional assessments measuring information recall are obsolete—focus instead on evaluating higher-order thinking, creativity, and the ability to synthesize AI-generated content with original insights. (40:46) The goal is developing "persons equal to the conditions of freedom," not human knowledge databases.

Build AI-Native Learning Systems for Continuous Growth

Automate knowledge gaps identification and create personalized review cycles that ensure mastery before progression. Like the MIT student who built automated note summarization and quiz generation, (57:01) design systems that make learning inevitable rather than optional, turning AI into your most patient and persistent learning partner.

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